Secret conversation between Shoigu and Wallace: Russians can suffer like no other

On February 11, nearly two weeks before a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine, British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace spoke with his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu about the possible consequences of such a scenario.

The Washington Post published details of this previously unpublished conversation.

The material revealed that during his visit, Wallace wanted to ask again if there was an opportunity for negotiations regarding Putin’s demands for NATO expansion and the alliance’s activities in Eastern Europe. However, Shoigu did not show “any interest in the subject”.

The British minister then warned his colleague that if Russia decided to invade Ukraine, it would face fierce resistance, to which Shoigu replied that “Russia and Ukraine are one country” and that “his mother is Ukrainian”. However, he assured that they are not planning to start a war.

In response to Wallace’s warning about future sanctions and the damage they could do to the country, Shoigu assured Wallace that “Russians can suffer like no other” and added that they could no longer “tolerate Ukraine’s western trajectory.”

“He looked me in the eye and said, ‘We have no plans to invade Ukraine,'” Wallace said.

This shows how lying the Russians are, write the authors of the material.

Bloomberg sources have already revealed with whom and how Putin made the decision to invade Ukraine. According to them, the decision to invade was made in a narrow circle of “hawks” – Minister of Defense Shoigu, Chief of the General Staff Gerasimov and Secretary of the Security Council Patrushev.

Meanwhile, the Washington Post article on Putin’s secret plans before the invasion of Ukraine said the dictator wanted to seize most of the country, “take over” Kyiv in three days and kill Zelensky “if necessary “.


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